"Occupy Danbury" A Poll

Members of Occupy Danbury have been asked to leave the Danbury Fair mall. Is this right?

This is a question posed by Occupy Danbury, and here is their submitted background information.


Since opening over 20 years ago, for better or for worse, the Danbury Fair Mall has become the center of economic life in our region.  As such, it serves as a place for people to gather and meet.  Many people, including the corporation itself, considers the mall our new Town Center/Green.  Recently, a group of citizens wearing "Occupy Danbury" T-shirts met over dinner in the mall food court to discuss the Occupy movement. They were approached and told by Mall Security that they were not welcome to come back wearing those T-Shirts.  The citizens gathered felt this was another example of corporations and the 1% dominating politics and speech in this country. 
Our question is a simple one: 

law January 17, 2012 at 10:08 PM
I don't know about public property, but I know you can't collect signatures on federal property, as I tried to once and was sent away as it was federal property. It was a post office and I was outside not blocking any doors, but they said I had to go, so I did. If these kids were just eating lunch with the t-shirts on, I do think it was extreme to send them out, especially if they were behaving.
Richard Frascone January 17, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Have you watched the video? One of these kids is 88 years young. If the group had T-shirts that said "buy at the mall" we'd be cosidered heros. But when we try to raise awareness we're evil. Can you explain that to me?
Baby Jesus January 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Since the Mall is private property, it would be like a group coming to your private property to have a meeting. Would anyone allow that?
Richard Frascone January 17, 2012 at 11:30 PM
If they were are coming to buy something that I can profit from, the more the merrier. Isn't that the idea to maximize profits?
Baby Jesus January 18, 2012 at 12:03 AM
yes, but ultimately it is their decision if the want to use their property to hold meetings, as it would be your choice to have a large group at your house. If you didn't want a group at your house, wouldn't it be your right to ask them to leave?
Concerned dad January 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Charlie, you miss the point. The mall is a corporation and should not be afforded the same rights as a person. That is what is wrong with this country, and how we ended up with 1% controlling most to the wealth.
Baby Jesus January 18, 2012 at 12:22 AM
A corporation is not entitled to the same rights as we all are? What part of the constitution is that? Do they not pay taxes as we all do? I believe if the group would have approached the owners (letter,email,etc.) they would get farther that way. Worth a shot, don't you think?
J January 18, 2012 at 05:13 PM
The idea that a corporation has the same rights as the people, that a corporation is equal to an American citizens has become so pervasive that we actually believe it and may protect it- as does the gentlman above. A corporation is a machine, a tool, designed for profit and in many ways enhances our lives. However, we have reached the point where the machine has become more powerful than the man and the results are not to our benefit. So unbalanced is this system that the jobs the machine is to create have been threatened or lost, the benefits to the quality of life that we would expect the machine to enhance have become compromised instead and, perhaps the greatest threat, is to our democracy - where the power MUST reside with the people -not a corporate machine.
Baby Jesus January 18, 2012 at 05:31 PM
What if the "machine" didn't pay taxes? Your taxes would be higher right? Are the owners of the machine not as worthy of rights as you are? If you don't like the mall, don't go there. Personally I don't go there myself, that is my choice, same choice you can make. Why not have your little protest on your own property?
Richard Frascone January 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Charlie we're not protesting. Why do you have to put a bad conotation on what we're doing. It seems like your pre-judging us, dosen't it? Why don't you come down to the courthouse on Friday between 11:30 and 1:30 and you can meet us. Charlie this is an effort to create awareness and just the fact that your online chatting with me proves that it's working. Welcome to the 99%. Come Occupy thhe courthouse with us.
Baby Jesus January 18, 2012 at 10:49 PM
@Richard, I was replying to the comment that the Mall should not have the same rights as every citizen does. We have the privilege to use a person's property if they allow us. We do not have the right to be there if they don't want us there. It's their property, they can make the call. It has nothing to do with why you are gathering. Same as if you had a block party and didn't want a group there, you could ask them to leave, and they would have to leave right?
Adam K Bice January 19, 2012 at 03:58 AM
This is asinine. The Danbury Fair Mall - any mall, in fact - is private property. The owners have the right to remove anyone they wish from their building. Would you argue that the KKK, Black Panthers, or a group of Neo-Nazis had the right to meet - in uniform - at the food court of a mall and have a meeting? Of course you will in these comments on the internet, but that's not the point. The point is, if you want a guarantee that you will be allowed to meet in a mall, buy your own. Until then, you are at the whim of whomever owns the private property you choose for your meetings.
Ernie Oust January 23, 2012 at 03:41 AM
I live that we as a nation are finally saying no to these divisive, insane, selfish lunatics. I will be rewarding that commercial enterprise with my business, don't we live in an awesome country that I'm free to do that ?!?!
Amy Reid January 23, 2012 at 03:44 AM
After the violence we've seen from these groups I don't think it's safe allowing them near public areas where many children under 18 may be quasi unsupervised
Richard Frascone January 23, 2012 at 04:25 AM
The violence you've seen? What violence? Oh and by the way you forgot to mention the pot smoking and the open air sex. Amy these people are your next door neighbors. You live and work with these people. The way you talk you make "these groups" out to be the boogey man. Why not come out and meet with some of the people before you start throwing stones. Follow us on Occupy Danbury. The baby Jesus loves the 99%.
Ron January 23, 2012 at 01:11 PM
Occupy Danbury? Really? Now I know why they are the bottom 99%.
Richard Frascone January 23, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Ron are you telling us that your part of the 1%?
Ay Bet January 26, 2012 at 04:51 AM
What a bunch of losers
Ron January 26, 2012 at 01:32 PM
This is the new American way. Complain, protest, vote for candidates who support you if you are a loser. Life isn't fair. Other people are smarter than I am, they work harder, take risks, make better decisions and they get rich. Take their money away and give it to me. Barry figured it out. Shell game. dumb, lazy
Richard Frascone January 27, 2012 at 09:28 AM
Ron, boy have you bought in to the bullshit. People that work harder, take risks...... what risks, these guys are running a fixed game, they get rich by taking advantage of the 99%. The way these guys get rich is by hosing people and decieving them. Your living proof! You don't have a clue as to what's going on. For example, do you have any idea of what fractional reserve lending is? When you understand how that works we can talk,until then, you need to do some homework.
Baby Jesus January 27, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Richard Frascone for president!!!! of Delta Tau Chi Fraternity ☻


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